NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. SCHULTZ: For NPR News, I'm Teri Schultz in Brussels. But Braw remains skeptical on her country's behalf.īRAW: A promise from Erdogan when it comes to Swedish membership will only be real when Sweden is in NATO. SCHULTZ: A face-to-face meeting between Biden and Erdogan has just been put on the summit agenda to apply maximum pressure. The Biden administration is willing to offer Turkey F-16s in exchange for Sweden's accession.
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Swedish defense policy analyst Elisabeth Braw scoffs at claims there's no quid pro quo.ĮLISABETH BRAW: Everybody knows that's not the case. Presidents Biden and Erdogan discussed both Swedish membership and F-16s in a phone call Sunday, after which Erdogan denied the two subjects are connected. F-16 fighter jets currently blocked by Congress. SCHULTZ: But Erdogan is also seeking sweeteners from outside Sweden - sales of U.S. PAUL LEVIN: It would be politically very difficult for any government to make restrictions on freedom of speech at the sort of behest of Erdogan, who was running a country that right now does not rank well when it comes to freedom of speech. And Paul Levin, head of Stockholm University's Institute for Turkish Studies, says the Swedish public agrees. The Swedish government says it cannot go further.
Swedish police have tried to block incidents of Quran burning, and restrictions have been lifted on arms sales to Turkey. Stockholm has toughened its stance against the PKK, a Kurdish militant group designated as a terrorist organization but still allowed to hold public demonstrations. SCHULTZ: Twenty-nine of the 31 NATO governments, as well as Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, say it should already have happened. It's been sort of open to discussion, and so anything might happen. KUNERALP: He's not been saying things like, you know, they will join over my dead body or anything like that. SCHULTZ: Retired Turkish Ambassador Selim Kuneralp says no one can predict whether Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will let Sweden become a NATO member at the summit, but Kuneralp does detect that Erdogan has slightly softened his anti-Swedish rhetoric since winning reelection in May. SELIM KUNERALP: So it comes to his decision and his alone.
TERI SCHULTZ: The tone of NATO's Vilnius summit will be determined by one man, and it's not the one running the alliance. Teri Schultz has this report from Brussels. He's just a dude that's for America, that understands how our rules work, and he's not even like naturally American, you know? And understands how well this country works and what makes this country work, that's why I'm cheering for Elon.As this year's NATO summit gets underway in Lithuania, Turkey is still blocking Sweden's bid for membership in the alliance. "The reason why I love Elon so much, this dude's a patriot, man. he just connected with Musk on a different level. Elon, you need me on your team, brother! That's who you need on your team."Īlthough he admittedly is Team Elon, Jorge has no beef with Zuck (even says he's "done some great things in this world"). So no offense to none of them, because they're all great at what they do. "All those guys, you mentioned are studs but none of those guys have 50 pro fights and all the amateur fights that I got, all the street fights that I got. but Masvidal believes he can help in ways they may not be able to. Of course, we've seen Musk working out with legendary Brazilian jiu-jitsu instructor John Danaher and BJJ black belt (and great podcaster) Lex Fridman.
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